People · sourced chart
Joseph Lister
Surgeon and university teacher · United Kingdom · 1827–1912
Birth date sourced. Birth time unknown.Moon sign undetermined. The Moon crossed from Cancer into Leo during that day. Everything below uses only what the complete civil day settles.
The day, read honestly
The Sun stands at 14.9° Aries, in exaltation — the tradition’s honoured-guest placement, working at its best. Of everything the chart can be read for without a birth time, that is the loudest single fact in it.
Positions at 12:00 civil time in Upton House, Newham—a reference instant, not a birth time. No houses, rising sign, angles, or sect were computed.
Where the Sun actually stood
The Sun's exact place is 14.9° Aries. That falls in the second decan, 10°–20°, sub-ruled by the Sun in the classical scheme — a fire sign read through a cardinal season.
The personal registers
Closer in, Mercury stands at 15.5° Aries; Venus stands at 0.8° Pisces; Mars stands at 12.8° Taurus. The tradition reads a mind that decides at speaking speed from Mercury, taste tuned to mood and undertow from Venus, drive that grinds rather than flares from Mars.
The angles that hold
Start where the chart is tightest — Venus trine Saturn, 0.5° of separation. A third of the circle is the tradition’s friendliest distance — same element, shared assumptions, no translation required. Behind it, the Sun conjunction Mercury at 0.5°, and Mercury square Neptune at 0.7° — both still well inside the orbs this site uses. Each angle here was measured at every hour of the civil day and held; whatever the missing clock said, this geometry was in it.
What the angles build
The day-stable angles form no closed figure. Nothing funnels; each aspect is its own negotiation, which the tradition reads as a chart of separate treaties rather than one campaign.
The classical map
Of the seven planets the classical scheme judges, four sit in a sign it has an opinion about. The Sun in Aries at 14.9° is in exaltation — the tradition’s honoured-guest placement, working at its best; Venus in Pisces at 0.8° is in exaltation; Mars in Taurus at 12.8° is in detriment — the planet opposite its home, working against the grain; Saturn in Cancer at 0.3° is in detriment. The old table grades terrain, not talent — a placement in fall works uphill, nothing more.
The shape of the whole
The certain ground: 9 placements whose signs hold for the whole day, dividing 3 fire, 3 earth, 2 water, 1 air by element and 7 cardinal, 1 mutable, 1 fixed by mode. Mercury and Jupiter were retrograde — motion that reverses only from this vantage point, and which the old reading treats as delay used for revision.
The Moon is genuinely open
The Moon crossed from Cancer into Leo during that day at the birthplace, travelling 12.2° between one midnight and the next. A birth time would settle it in a second; there isn’t one. So the Moon stays unnamed here — the alternative is a guess wearing the clothes of a fact.
Where this comes fromSources, revisions, and exactly what this chart assumes
- Source article
- Joseph Lister · revision 1365036642
- Wikidata
- Q155768 · revision 2517006422
- Retrieved
- 2026-07-26T18:47:50.947Z
- Birth date
- 1827-04-05 · day precision · proleptic-gregorian
- Birthplace
- Upton House, Newham, United Kingdom · Q28404673
- Coordinates
- 51.5395, 0.0232 · from Upton House, Newham
- Reference instant
- 1827-04-05T12:01:15.000Z · noon civil time, not a birth time
- Omitted
- Rising sign, houses, angles, and sect—all require a birth time.
- Unknown-time range
- Moon travelled 12.21° · Moon sign undetermined. The Moon crossed from Cancer into Leo during that day.
- Engine
- astronomy-engine (repository dependency) · @zodiacs/engine/internal/math
- Portrait
- None published · no creator recorded on the file page
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