José Clemente Orozco

Painter · Mexico · 1883–1949

Sagittarius 1.2° · born November 23, 1883
Birth time unknown

Birth date sourced. Birth time unknown.Moon sign undetermined. The Moon crossed from Virgo into Libra during that day. Mercury crossed from Scorpio into Sagittarius during that day, so its sign is left open. Everything below uses only what the complete civil day settles.

The day, read honestly

0.3° separates Venus and Mars from an exact trine; at that range taste and drive read as one mechanism. A trine runs downhill — the talent that never announces itself because it never had to.

Positions at 12:00 civil time in Ciudad Guzmán—a reference instant, not a birth time. No houses, rising sign, angles, or sect were computed.

Where the Sun actually stood

The Sun's position resolves to 1.2° Sagittarius — deep enough in the first decan (0°–10°) that Jupiter, its traditional sub-ruler, colours the reading.

The personal registers

For the fast movers, Venus was at 17.4° Sagittarius, Mars was at 17.1° Leo. Read together: attraction declared rather than implied; effort spent in bursts and openings.

The angles that hold

The day's firmest angle joins Venus and Mars — a trine holding at 0.3°. A trine runs downhill — the talent that never announces itself because it never had to. Behind it, Mercury opposition Pluto at 0.5°, and the Sun opposition Pluto at 1.0° — both still well inside the orbs this site uses. All of it stands whatever the hour was: each angle was tested from midnight to midnight before it was written down.

The standing structure

No closed figure — no grand trine, t-square, or grand cross — holds among the day-stable angles. The chart distributes its tension pair by pair rather than through one standing structure.

The classical map

No planet here is at home, exalted, in detriment, or in fall. That silence from the oldest layer of the scheme is itself a result, and it moves the weight of the reading onto the geometry.

The shape of the whole

The certain ground: 8 placements whose signs hold for the whole day, dividing 4 fire, 2 air, 2 earth by element and 5 mutable, 3 fixed by mode. Mercury crossed from Scorpio into Sagittarius during that day, so its sign is left open. No settled placement falls in water — an absence the tradition treats as information, not as a defect. Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune and Pluto were retrograde — the backward drift a body appears to make as the Earth overtakes it, read in the scheme as a function that reviews before it releases.

The Moon is genuinely open

The Moon crossed from Virgo into Libra during that day at the birthplace, travelling 12.0° between one midnight and the next. Without a recorded hour there is no honest way to say which side it was on, so this reading does not say. The Moon sign is a real question here, not a rounding error, and it needs a birth time nobody has published.

Where this comes fromSources, revisions, and exactly what this chart assumes

Source article: José Clemente Orozco · revision 1351681252
Wikidata: Q332041 · revision 2521438731
Retrieved: 2026-07-26T18:47:50.947Z
Birth date: 1883-11-23 · day precision · proleptic-gregorian
Birthplace: Ciudad Guzmán, Mexico · Q1094355
Coordinates: 19.7047, -103.4625 · from Ciudad Guzmán
Reference instant: 1883-11-23T18:36:36.000Z · noon civil time, not a birth time
Omitted: Rising sign, houses, angles, and sect—all require a birth time.
Unknown-time range: Moon travelled 12.02° · Moon sign undetermined. The Moon crossed from Virgo into Libra during that day.
Open signs: Mercury crossed from Scorpio into Sagittarius during that day, so its sign is left open.
Engine: astronomy-engine (repository dependency) · @zodiacs/engine/internal/math
Portrait: Los Angeles Times · CC BY 4.0 · Wikimedia Commons

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